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ETERNAL FLAME’S QUESTIONS TO
CIRITH UNGOL 11/99

1. Cirith Ungol are definitely history – or aren’t they? I mean, there are various other bands from the old days (like e.g. Broca’s Helm or Manilla Road) whom we thought dead and buried but who were really only taking a break and are now back again forging new material…

Cirith Ungol officially disbanded in 1992. The reasons were many but mainly because of the way we had been screwed by our record companies over the years. The culmination being our treatment at the hands of Restless Records and the debacle of the recording of “Paradise Lost”. Also Jerry passed away last summer he drank himself to death, I think over not playing anymore.

First of all let me say how happy I am with the re-mastering of all 3 albums. Brad Vance at DNA did an amazing job at getting the bass to the right level. Low-end bass always seemed to be missing on the LP’s. I feel that the new CD’s sound better than the original LP’s, something that I never would have thought possible. Next is we wrote at least 30 songs that have never been released. I also have several C.U. live tapes. Two of the songs, which you have heard on the recently re-released CD’s on Metal Blade Records, are from these. Both live songs were recorded in California, the live song “Cirith Ungol” was recorded at the Arlington Theater in Santa Barbara on April 5, 1985, and the song “Last Laugh” was recorded at the Country Club in LA on November 9,1984.

I am hoping that with our fan support, that Metal Blade will re-release our fourth album “Paradise Lost” and also a final C.U. CD with all this unreleased material on it. None of it is what I think of as “studio quality” but some are the best songs we ever wrote and Tim’s singing and some of the double lead guitar solos are far more radical than anything our fans have ever heard! “Last Laugh” being just one. Others songs are “Half Past Human – A Quarter to Ape”, “High Speed Love”, “Show You All”, “Hype Performance”, “Brutish Manchild”, “Shelob’s Lair”, “The Twitch” etc. etc. etc.

2. What’s the situation in the Cirith Ungol-camp at the moment? Who is in the band, what can you tell us about the members? What do you have in mind for the future, have you played any shows in the last couple of months, is there already new material?! Please tell us everything!

See answer #1

3. Where do you live at the moment and: is there any metal- or music scene in general there?

It is funny because in our town there is this really cool theater. When were at our zenith the management would never book us there, actually our last concert was there before the split. Now an old friend of ours runs it and they have bands every night. I live in Ventura, California. This is where the band started and where we were based for our entire career.

4. Why did you split up (if you did)?

We tried for years to get a record company interested in us to no avail, we had no manager and we live about an hour from LA where all the record companies are, so we decided to record our own album. I borrowed the money and we recorded it. At the time we wanted a “Sword and Sorcery” (S&S) theme cover called “Berserker” by Frank Frazetta, a famous S&S artist, but it was taken by the country rock band Molly Hatchet! I was reading “Stormbringer” by Michael Moorcock at the time and was thinking man this is the ultimate cover art! I never thought we could use it but I contacted the publisher who got me in touch with Michael Whelan, who is one of the few people in our entire music career who was honest, friendly and kind, and we got to use it. I think we were the first album cover he had done at the time and we really wanted to use all his “Elric” series on our covers which we did! I told him that I always wanted to buy the painting for the cover of #1 (Stormbringer) from him if we made it big but we never did. He was quite successful them, but now he is probably the world foremost fantasy artist, painter, illustrator and his paintings cost $$$. It is funny, Deep Purple had an album named after the book and we got the cover. Blue Oyster Cult also had a song “Bane of the Black Sword” which was based on Michael Moorcock’s writing.

Brian Slagel worked at a record store at the time (OZ Records) and he was a big fan of ours back then. He hooked us up to the new company “Greenworld” who distributed our album until they started the company “Enigma” which signed our band. We were the first band I know of in the LA music scene at the time to try to release our own album. We were the first band signed to Enigma, the next was Motley Crue (YAK), they wanted us at the time to wear women’s clothes and make-up (like all the bands they liked over the years, Ratt, Stryper, Poison) and we refused which I think had allot to do with them doing very little for us. I have very little respect for these bands or their music, I think them dressing like women wearing lipstick and eyeliner etc. really set them apart from C.U.

I feel that if we could have gotten away from GREENWORLD, ENIGMA, and RESTLESS, which basically were all the same company with different names (probably to confuse all those they had ripped off) we would have had a chance. If we could have signed with a major label, with tour support etc. we would have made it big, but we kept thinking someone was looking out for us which was a big pipe dream.

After OFIH was released we kind of knew that M.B. either didn’t have the money or interest in the band to follow through with what we needed, so the waiting game started again. We had written the most unbelievable set of new songs and we were ready to release them in 1987 when the band broke up, but the demo versions (I think I destroyed the tapes) of what was later to be Tim’s trilogy “Paradise Lost” were 10 times better than the album you know of by that name. I was personally so disappointed in the album that when I came home and listened to it the night it was completed, I actually cried, think all these wasted f**king years trying to get this whole f**king thing off the ground, all the REAL blood, sweat and tears and here we are f**ked again. It was almost more than I could take as an artist. What happened next is the downfall of the band as I envisioned it. Jerry impatient with his 15 years in the band and my relentless pushing of all involved getting every one to keep up the grueling work even though there was never any pay back, left the band. Flint, Tim and I tried to talk him out of it to no avail. We had found a really good guitarist named Jimmy Baraza who we wanted to bring on board so that Jerry could concentrate on his leads and we could play all the double leads we were writing in all the new (and old) songs. Somehow Jerry must have felt that we were trying to replace him although nothing could have been farther from the truth.

Next we signed with Restless which actually were the shattered remains of our original label Enigma who had been bought by Capitol because they were impressed by all their poser type bands. After Capitol bought them and the men dressing like women thing started to die out (who would have guessed) Enigma filed for bankruptcy. I don’t know or care about all the sordid details but they ended up an abbreviated company called Restless. We were so desperate at this time and really had no where else to go so I talked this creep Ron Goudie into signing the band. It took at least 3 years for all the shit to settle at the record company after their break-up with Capitol so this whole time we waited. I showed up at the band room one night and Flints stuff was missing, he had decided to join a garage band thinking that our career was as doomed as the planet we live on. After six months he returned only to leave again right as soon as the album was to start to be recorded. I can’t fault their decision but if Jerry and Flint would have stuck it out #4 would have been allot better CD and we may have finally got the recognition that we deserved.

Anyway I put ads the local music stores and got a call from two guys who were in a local band in Santa Barbara. They came down and we decided they would be better than nothing. The deal was they help us record our album and they would get to put some of their songs on it. The guitarist Joe Malatesta’s song was “The Troll” and the bass player Bob Warenburg’s song was “Heaven Help Us”. Although these songs really were not our style we really had no choice.

(This whole next crap you have to read sarcastically to get the feeling for what I am thinking!) When we finally started recording Ron Goudie brought in a little box which was to be my little friend for the next f**king six months!! It was a f**king electric metronome. I was to play along with it every day until I could learn to keep a “beat”, this way the album was to be professional (in his opinion). Every time I complained about this kind of bullshit he would kindly remind us that we could stop the whole thing at any time if we couldn’t follow his orders, it was just as well with him. Anyway here is the true disgusting story how we were forced to record our fourth album.

I was to go in with only the little f**king click machine to record the drum tracks, no bass… no guitar.. no nothing to play with but this little piece of shit!! Next the other members followed suit except Ron did not want the other members of the band in the studio. (I guess he didn’t want us to contaminate his vision of what we thought was our album!!!!) So each band member went in did his part alone. I was really upset about the vocals cause I had coached and cheered Tim through the last 3 albums, Guess what I wasn’t allowed in while the vocals were done. I hope you can get the picture of how warped and terrible this whole album was done. Not only this, but the best 20 seconds of the album Ron cut out because while he was producing the album he fucked up and the part which I thought was the most killer part of “Paradise Lost” was spooled out on the studio room floor. I was very pissed about this!!! And still am!!

To make a long story short Bob got some kind of religion, and Joe left to do something or another. Both left before the album was even released, which made us look bad in Restless’ eyes. Tim, Jimmy and I were so pissed at what we thought was a betrayal so we pulled their pictures from the album.

Anyway I put another ad the local music stores and got a call from a guy called Vern Green who also unfortunately had some religious beliefs, so right after we got cut from Restless he quit the band, then Jimmy quit. The sad thing about Jimmy, he was one hell of a guitarist but once again he didn’t have what it takes to have followed it through. It was really a shame, but Tim and I were looking at each other one night at our band room and we just decided after 22 years of being f**ked over we had had about enough. I sold all our equipment and my drums paid off or bills and Cirith Ungol was officially deceased.

5. You took the name Cirith Ungol from J.R.R. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings. Who is the fantasy-fan in CU and why did you choose this name of all? (You’ re particularly fond of giant spiders, aren’t you?)

Every one in the band was a big “Sword and Sorcery” (S&S) literature fan, especially Greg and I. He would always turn us on to the great writers who gave us inspiration for our music. We read all the books Conan, Bran Mak Morn, etc. but the books that stood out in my mind are Michael Moorcock’s masterpieces: Elric, Hawkmoon, etc.

Greg Lindstrom and I met at an English Literature class where the teacher was reading L.O.T.R. and Greg and I read it and it had an influence on our music and feelings. In retrospect I wish we had picked something easier to remember because allot of our trouble has been over our name. People couldn’t pronounce it or remember it but we figured once that they did they wouldn’t forget it! We had been humorously been called “Sarah’s Uncle” and “Serious Uncool” etc. HA! 🙂

6. When you set out to play – well, would you agree to call it “fantasy Metal” – you were doing something rather new, as far as Heavy Metal is concerned: The fantasy stuff mainly came from the 70ies Progressive Bands. What kind of music were you listening to and what books did you read?

See answer #5

7. Imagine the traditional fantasy scenario: You are the hero of the day, rescued the sweet princess from the dragon’s dungeon and brought her home untouched. Her father – the king – gives you his royal thanx and for the reward leads you down into his secret treasure chamber where you may find EVERY (!) classic magic fantasy item you may think of (from every fantasy story or fairytale you know). What item would you choose?

I would choose the sword Stormbringer. I can really relate to this being, like Cirith Ungol, Stormbringer has this dual personality of good and evil, and it’s story is one of tragedy not unlike our own.

8. Has your taste in music and literature changed from then to now? Are you still into METAL?

Actually I still listen to what I consider classic metal. That does not mean that it has to be old, it means that it has to have the same heavy pounding beat that really pumps!!! I still read fantasy and horror and one of my all time favorite writers besides Moorcock, is H. P. Lovecraft. His writing is among the best horror literature ever written and if you have never read any go pick up a book instantly. If we were still in the band I would be writing songs based on his Cthulu Mythos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the U.S Michael Whelan painted the cover art for his books.

9. What was the last killer album you have heard and what was the last killer show you have been to?

It is hard to pick. It has been a while since I have heard or seen an act that is as outstanding as some I have memories of from the past.

10. And your five all-time-fave-records?

I cannot narrow it down to five but some of the bands favorites were:

Black Sabbath, “Master of Reality”….Montrose, “Montrose”…. Scorpions, “In Trance”…
Yesterday & Today (Y&T), “Earthshaker”…. Lucifer’s Friend, “Lucifer’s Friend”…
Thin Lizzy, “China Town”…Queensryche, “Operation Mindcrime”…. Rush, “Rush”
ZZ Top, “Tres Hombres”…. Deep Purple, “In Rock”…. Mountain, “Nantucket Sleigh ride”
Dust, “Hard Attack”… Mournin, “Night Sun”…. Sir Lord Baltimore, (2)….
Captain Beyond, (1)…. Budgie, “Squawk”…. Moxy, (1)…Blue Oyster Cult, “Tyranny and
Mutation”…Hard Stuff, “Bulletproof”…Kansas, “Masque”…Trapeze, “Medusa”…
Judas Priest, “Sad Wings of Destiny”… etc, etc, etc,

11. Do you listen to newer acts lyrically tapping the Dungeons & Dragons vein?

I have not, but I would be interested in listening

12. In my opinion four bands in this universe play the most strange style of heavy metal: Cirith Ungol, Manilla Road, Griffin – and Brocas Helm! Metal far beyond every known category and surely no rip off of any band I ever heard! What do you think? Have you ever had any contact to one of the other three mentioned bands?

I really haven’t however I really admire some of their music.

13. When people talk (or write) about CU they mainly focus on Tim’s rather unique way of singing – it’s the trademark CU are still famous for today. What’s your personal opinion about Tim’s voice and did you (or any other CU) ever feel your contribution to CU “underrated” by fans/press?

I really liked Tim’s voice however he was a smoker and I really feel that his best work was F&F and KOTD. I was very upset at the vocals of PL, as I have related above. Tim voice was rather unusual at the time however it is tame compared to some of the death metal bands out today. I feel the best part of our work revolved around the guitars and song writing abilities of the band. We worked quite hard at this and I think all our guitar work had allot of class.

14. Most of the lyrics were penned by Tim – which is quite normal with him being the singer. How important were the lyrics for you? Did you ever writ lyrics for a CU song?

This is not really true. Greg wrote most of the lyrics on F&F and we worked pretty close on many other songs. I wrote most of “King of the Dead”, all of “Death of the Sun”, “Doomed Planet”, “Nadsokor” along with song you will unfortunately never hear such as “Flesh Dart” and “Tight Teen”. Most of the lyrics as the song were worked on as a group the exception being Greg’s who always brought the finished product to the band.

15. “King of the Dead” and “Frost and Fire” were among the first albums being “re-released” (as bootlegs, obviously) on the dubious Reborn Classics label. What’s your opinion about that? Do you feel honored obviously being a “cult” act?

I’ve seen this and I thought it was cool. Some one asks me if I was upset at these unauthorized releases and my answer was: why should we be upset? We never received any money from our legitimate record companies, so why should we be mad at fans that liked our band so much as to conceive of and execute these projects!! At the time our music was not available and I feel that our fans were starved for the taste of Ungol and had to satisfy their desire any way they could!

16. What means success for you?

Success would have been us on tour around the world, playing for our fans and doing what we did best in life.

My life would be a complete failure if it had not been for my dream to get a Ferrari, which was another of my passions. It has tempered my disappointment from not being able to play anymore, and I’m sure there is no man alive who has never dreamed of driving an automobile of this caliber. As you might already know I am not only a huge Ferrari fan I follow F1 and am a loyal Tifosi!! One of the first times Greg Lindstrom and I got together we went to the LA auto show to see the new Ferrari’s. We were very young about 12 or 13. The fire of the red religion burns in me. I think there is a definite relationship between the screaming of the engine, the sucking of the carburetors and the throbbing and pulsing of True Metal!!!!! I was hoping that if the band was successful I could have a huge stable of them, however I had to quit the band and get a regular job to afford even one! I have a 1975 Dino 308 gt4. If you listen real close, you can hear me racing in the hills above Ventura, winding through the gears, blasting metal as I downshift into the next corner!!! My life was full of two passions, now that my passion for music has been ripped from my breast… I have immersed myself in the red blood of Ferrari!!!!

17. What can you tell us about the CU live-experience? Explosions? Frost and fire? Animated skeletons? Or just plain music?

Near the end were some of our best shows. Our roadies would dress up in robes and bring Tim out in a coffin for “King of the Dead” they would slowly raise it up and he would crawl out singing. I had these explosive devices on my cymbals which would shoot a balls of fire 20 feet in the air, we also had this stuffed head that had red LED’s for eyes that we would mount on my gong stand. We had a gigantic praying skeleton logo backdrop and sometimes the glowing “Wheel of Fate” logo off our album. At the end of the show we would always go crazy scraping guitar strings, smashing equipment, breaking cymbals and generally letting loose. We usually opened for “bigger” bands so we usually got no sound check, no dressing rooms, bad sound and lights so we always would try to play as hard and heavy as we could and finish up with a bang. It made us hard and cold and we would always play very loud and Kick Ass!!

18. With what bands have you played in the past? And: What band would be your ultimate dream to play with?

We played with allot of bands none I was ever impressed with, but if I had to pick a band to play with it would have been old Black Sabbath they were a great inspiration to me and I still live by “Sweet Leaf” and “Into the Void”!

19. Are you aware of the fact that Cirith Ungol does have the most fantastic cover artworks ever in the entire heavy metal universe?

Yes, we were very, very, lucky!!! There were other great covers, there was a band called Toefat and they had humans with thumbs as heads!

20. In fact Michael Whelan’s cover artworks are among the best fantasy art ever to appear on a Metal record. What can you tell us about Michael and his relationship to CU? Have you ever met him face to face?

Yes he is a very great artist. He once came to Ventura and we all went out to dinner. His birth date is the same as mine June 29th and he works out in the martial arts as I did. He has a wonderful family and he lives in Connecticut. He always wanted to be a musician
and I wanted to be an artist! I talked to him recently and he is doing well.

21. Did you gave your music to Michael for inspiration or has there never been a deeper interest in the world and music of Cirith Ungol?

He has all our records but I don’t know what effect our music had on him.

22. Who drew the praying skeletons?

They were something Greg came up with. We liked them and they stayed as our logo

23. Were these all based on the ideas of the band or have you had nothing to do with the cover artworks?!

I think we were heavily influenced by the covers as well as S&S literature, The song “KOTD” is depicted on the cover of the album, as is “Nadsokor” on OFIH.

24. Next to the praying skeletons CU use the symbol of the chaos star. What’s behind that? Can you tell us anything about this symbol? Nowhere at all we found any information about the sign of the chaos star … (Other bands we found using the sign of the chaos stars on their LPs/logos etc. are Bolt Thrower and Sepultura…)

In the Moorcock books the CHAOS sign is described as a symbol with many arrows pointing in all directions symbolizing the many possibilities of CHAOS! The symbol of LAW was one arrow pointing up. We liked the idea of CHAOS and I designed the logo based on my readings of the book.

25. How would you describe the music of Cirith Ungol to somebody who has never heard anything from the band?

I think we were a band heavily influenced by European Rock bands of the 70’s and 80’s and we were a band with our distinct style of music, which we wrote with much passion, and style. We had screaming guitars and vocals pounding bass and drums with a dark but not Satanic theme. We were ahead of our time, but also a band, which ran out of time…

26. What album would you suggest to CU-greenhorns as the perfect entry into the world of Cirith Ungol?! Is this album you named also your personal CU-fave?!

KOTD was our best album, the reason was that we had total control over it. Every album could have been this good if we could have exercised complete control over its production etc. This is the album, which I feel is our best effort. The reason the long wait between albums is because when you are financing them yourselves, you have to come up with the $$$ to pay for studio time etc. Plus being on all these independent labels their timetables are slower. I also did the entire layout and design of the first 3 covers, all this while we were all working full time trying to sponsor the dream.

27. Are you in fantasy role-playing games, such as AD&D, Middle-Earth etc.?

No, I have very little free time. What time I do have I spend hiking, on the beach working in my fern garden, or in the, or under 🙂 the Ferrari!

28. Your last CD was called “Paradise Lost” … Have you read old Milton’s epic? The lyrics of the song are quite negative about the future (and nature) of man: “As justice calls to deafened ears, Their twisted dreams bring forth the day. A world of ash, and slow decay.” Comments? Are you afraid of Y2K?

Yes, we all read Milton especially Tim, I think the band as a whole had a very negative view of mankind as a whole and the direction we are headed. I feel that we are on the road to self-extinction and it will probably be a good thing for the Earth. I hope this isn’t so but I think it will be the case. I am not afraid of Y2K, I have a MAC!! 🙂

29. “Paradise Lost” showed up a new line up. What happened to Jerry Fogle and Flint who played on your first three releases? Are you still in contact with them? What are they doing now?

Jerry quit the band after the release of OFIH (One Foot In Hell) because he was depressed at the fact we had been together for about 15 years and although we had sold quite a few albums and had lots of fans worldwide we could never seem to get or the support we feel we deserved. Our goal was to get signed to a major record label, so we could go tour Europe, where we had always dreamed of going to play. We would work at the band room 4 or 5 nights a week answering fan mail, writing new songs and playing for our local fans. We kept waiting for a big break that never came. After Jerry left the band he stopped playing and his life seem to spiral downhill. He was drinking pretty heavy, and he finally drank himself to death. I talked to him recently and he finally admitted that his leaving the band was a huge mistake, which he had regretted all along. The sad thing about his death is the loss and squandering of so much talent. Listening to Jerry’s solo’s sometimes bring tears to my eyes, he played with so much feeling and emotion. One solo that comes to mind is the double lead in “Cirith Ungol”, the intertwining guitars weave a tale of sadness and hopelessness, which I feel, is the high point in our long and sad tale.

30. On the thanx-list of “Paradise Lost” Vernon Green thanx the U.S. Navy Seabees “for 5 * years of sheer bliss”. Sounds that he enjoyed this time very much … (Have you been to the army?!)

Vern was one of the people we brought on board at the end of our career because we were desperate for anyone at the time. He didn’t even play on “Paradise Lost”, and didn’t stay in the band very long. He and his wife got religion and bailed, which was for the best as he was never really C.U. material. None of the original members were ever in the army, as a matter of fact one of the first concerts we ever played was at anti- war (Vietnam) protest in Ventura. The protest was broken up by tear gas and we were leaving as the riot police were entering and busting heads. One of the only advantages of being an opening act!!

31. What made you cover Arthur Brown’s “Fire”? (Have you ever heard the version of the song the German Electro-metal-band Die Krupps did?) Has there been any other cover versions in CU in all these years (perhaps when you played live)?

We had always liked the Arthur Brown song and we wanted to do a remake. This song was destroyed in the final mix down. It had this really great bass line in D running all throughout the song somehow it got mixed totally out of the song. It is really a shame because this was what made the song really heavy!! Some of the other cover tunes we did live were: “Secret Agent Man”, and “Crash Course” by Budgie.

32. Obviously you seem to have liking for the Middle Ages. Have you ever been to Europe, “castle-watching”?

Our dream as a band was to tour Europe, where almost all our major influences and ancestors are from. However it was not to be, the support from the record companies was nonexistent and we could not have financed the trip ourselves. I am sure that we would have had the commercial success we deserved if our real fans over there would have had the chance to see the real boys of metal perform.

33. Imagine you are winning a free-holiday-journey – where would you prefer to go: To Egypt to watch the pyramids, a week of fishing somewhere up in Canada (very quiet and restful) or a trip to the French seaside at autumn where it’s cold and windy?

I am a Ferrari enthusiast, so I would have to say my dream vacation would be a trip to the Ferrari factory then to see the Italian Grand Prix at Monza, where hopefully Ferrari would come in first and second with Michael Schumacher on top of the podium!

34. For modern/younger listeners of HM, CU might sound rather unadorned and harsh, nowadays everybody doing big choirs and using broad keyboard-layers or even orchestras. Do you like this “new” sound? Has it ever appealed to you to do this yourself?

I feel that traditional metal is the power trio or its equivalent. Anything else is unnecessary. Look at the greatest bands of all times like Black Sabbath or Deep Purple the amount of music produced by the least number of musicians is what I feel is the best!

35. You are the webmaster of the CU-Site on the Internet. What do you think about this medium? Do you still get reactions from fans?

I think it is great! I don’t think Metal Blade is doing that much promo for us (if any) and this way anyone who is interested in the band can have access to us. Used to be if someone found our LP they were lucky. Now if someone really is interested they can find it on the web. I know our site is primitive but I am working on getting it up to speed! I get about 50 e-mails a day from all over the world from Greece to South America! It is hard to keep up with them. I have also done about 10 interviews recently! I must admit I am not a very good web master and I hope to improve our site soon!

36. Your opinion about “The Phantom Menace”?

I have not seen it although I wanted to. Although my idea of a good movie is the “Road Warrior” starring Mel Gibson, or the cult classic “Eraserhead”, and “From Beyond” a Lovecraft story as was the “Reanimator”

37. I can’t imagine that you are able to live on your music. What do you do to fill your refrigerators and pay your rents?

I studied to be an artist and I work in the graphics field, I am embarrassed as it is not what I wanted to do but it paid for the Ferrari so it is hard to complain!

38. Headword refrigerator: Are you able to cook a meal? Do you like cooking?

I love to cook, however I do not like to clean up, so my wife and I eat out about every night. There are tons of good restaurant near us and I like to walk to dinner so I can drink lots of Margaritas!!

39. What did your parents say about your music?

My parents were very supportive of our band. We practiced at their house for close to ten years, before we had our studio! They came to about every concert we played at, even though I’m sure they did not really understand the music they were the greatest! My father past away December 28, of 1998 last year.

40. Imagine you are running a garden party and have the chance to invite three bands or musicians to play for you at this night – dead people welcome! Who would you invite?

I would invite Thin Lizzy, Mountain, and Y&T

41. What’s your favorite pizza?!!

I like thick crust Italian sausage and pepperoni with extra garlic and extra cheese!!

CONGRATULATIONS – you finally made it! Thanx for your answers – take care and all the best for yak! Ah … by the way: Is it possible to get some photos (old and new) of the band? Would be great. So long…

The being called Ungol is dead, its resurrection is doubtful. But heed its teachings oh faithful, for these memoratic disks contain, the wisdom of the ages, and by your iron fists, the horror, of false metal be extinguished.

As you now join the swelling ranks of the Legions of Chaos, together we will drive before us, the cringing herd of False Metal, crush their spineless lackeys, and purge the world of their mutant plague!!!

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